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   Topic: Revolutionary Discontinuity?

   Conf: Discussion of Darnton's Article

   From: David Andress david.andress@port.ac.uk

   Date: Friday, March 17, 2000 09:35 AM

   

   Robert Darnton's excellent piece makes clear a whole host of elements

   within the history of eighteenth-century court-capital relations, and

   shows us the interrelation of what might have been thought to be

   distinct "elite" and "popular" cultures.



   What is most thought-provoking for me, as a historian of the French

   Revolution, is that, while many of the features of Darnton's

   information world quite clearly carry over into the revolutionary

   context, there is a significant extent to which some do not. One key

   feature present in the events he depicts is the acceptance, by

   everyone except the police, of a realm of popular comment on political

   affairs. I have written elsewhere of the extent to which Parisians

   continued to practice such comment, at least into 1791, but as I have

   noted, the revolutionary authorities and revolutionary commentators

   were extremely ambivalent about the legitimacy of such popular

   political voices. (See most recently "The Denial of Social Conflict in

   the French Revolution: Discourses around the Champ de Mars Massacre,

   17 July 1791," _French Historical Studies_ 22, no. 2 [1999]: 183-209;

   and "Press and Public in the French Revolution: A Parisian Case-Study

   from 1791," _European History Quarterly_ 28, no. 1 [1998]: 51-80.)

   One of the key points that Darnton articulates about the critical

   messages of the Old Regime is that they had the figure of the king at

   their heart. Thus we might suggest that, in a sense, the common

   position of all others as subjects of his majesty rendered them equal

   participants in a critical discourse about the reality, or otherwise,

   of that "majesty." Once the revolution had made the Nation into its

   sovereign, might we not further suggest that such a critical discourse

   became deeply problematic? One could criticize the public person of

   the king from "outside," but it was very difficult for revolutionaries

   to locate a similar "outside" from which criticism of the Nation (and

   its representatives very clearly assumed themselves to be the Nation,

   from the very origins of the "National Assembly") could be legitimate.

   The logic of the existence of the politically active Nation, and its

   representation in the Assembly, was that the only "outside" position

   available to a French citizen was the one that implied a

   counterrevolutionary intent.



   The revolutionary sovereign was no more able to accept criticism than

   had been the monarchy, but it was far more effective at excluding it

   from public expression.



   David Andress

   

   Topic: Re: Revolutionary Discontinuity?

   Conf: Discussion of Darnton's Article

   From: Robert Darnton darnton@princeton.edu

   Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 02:17 PM

   

   David Andress makes an important point: the ground rules governing the

   circulation of information and the actual practices of talking about

   public affairs changed fundamentally in 1789. Of course, continuities

   also existed. As Laura Mason has shown in _Singing the French

   Revolution_, revolutionary songs echoed those of the Old Regime.

   Caf³s, public gardens, the Palais-Royal continued to be hotbeds of

   political gossip, and police spies continued to report on it

   throughout the entire course of the revolution. In fact, the

   outspokenness of the French, even under the Terror, is likely to amaze

   anyone who reads documents about daily life in the Parisian Sections

   in 1793-1794 while looking backward across the history of oppression

   in the twentieth century. But David Andress correctly emphasizes a

   contradiction at the heart of popular sovereignty as it was understood

   at the height of the revolution: to criticize those who spoke in the

   name of the Nation could be construed as placing oneself outside the

   Nation, in the position of a counter-revolutionary. That contradiction

   may be implicit in articles 3 and 6 of the Declaration of the Rights

   of Man and of the Citizen, which locate sovereignty in the nation and

   define law as the expression of the general will, in contrast to

   articles 10 and 11, which guarantee freedom of opinion and expression.

   Article 11 ends with a dangerous proviso: "subject to accountability

   for abuse of this freedom in the cases determined by law." By 1791, as

   David Andress shows in his own research, the law was beginning to bend

   before such cases. After August 1792, conditions became so

   catastrophic that freedom of expression was stifled in the name of a

   higher law: the _salut public_. Should we attribute this tragedy to

   the contradiction itself? For my part, I would insist on the extreme

   conditions that made the Terror thinkable in 1793-1794 rather than on

   the thinking of the delegates to the Estates General in 1789 or the

   thoughts of Rousseau. Political gossip under the Old Regime did indeed

   turn on the personal qualities of the king, but it does not follow

   that democracy is incompatible with freedom of expression and the

   liberty of the press.



   Robert Darnton

   Princeton University




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